That said, Mind Flayers only live like ~150 years max and there is a book "Evading the Elder Brain" that says the Emperor was enslaved under the Elder Brain for 13 3/4 years before escaping to Baldurs Gate. The Emperor is not a humanoid. Balduran/The Emperor interacts with the main character as a central plot device, and gives the player a very important item. I mostly enjoyed the. dude has zero integrity, lmao. Thirdly, he wants to be accepted by you, having been rejected by all his closest allies. Turn left from the entrance and head to the end of the hall where you find two Dragon Head Torches. Balduran is not the human character. We see this through his trials in Wyrm's Rock and also by the fact his best friend was a good-aligned metallic dragon. Wielded by Balduran, the founder of Baldur's Gate and friend to his. This is the legendary hero Balduran, the founder of Baldur's Gate. Baldur's Gate 3 > General Discussions > Topic Details. idk, unnecessary? forced? out of nowhere? I mean the one guy who helps us and happens to be an illithid is also the guy who founded the damn city ? Isn't it a bit much? On a side note, when he joins the Netherbrain in the end if you refuse to give him the stones. [deleted] • 1 mo. Ansur was the one who tried to kill him in his sleep. The thing is, Ansur wouldn't have stopped either. But. The emperor knows you need a mind flayer to use the netherstones to subjugate the netherbrain. Zan, Cleric of Ilmater, remembers River from his dreams and is determined to know and understand his connection with her. Deep under Baldur's Gate is the Wyrmway, a dungeon filled with puzzles, an undead dragon called Ansur, and a lot of lore about the founder of Baldur's Gate: Balduran. When Withers says they're soulless it's not an entire truth but it's close to it. So, there is a spoiler about the real identity of the Emperor. The Emperor is Later Revealed to Be Balduran. Find the Wyrmway in Wyrm's Rock Prison. What we have left is a worm that has some impressions of who Balduran was. I'm not sure if this is just me reaching but when The Emperor explains his past and in the Letter to Ansur found on the dragons body it really seems like the devs are implying that Balduran and Ansur were partners before he got yk mind flayered, this would explain why Ansur tried so hard to cure Balduran but idk if I'm just. Joined: Jan 2023. It seems Larian might have improved the flow of the game at cost to the ending. . So in act 3, it’s revealed that the Emperor/Guardian was Balduran before they turned. No, players learn, he is calling The Emperor that, for The Emperor was Anduran's greatest ally in his past life, the found of Baldur's Gate, Balduran. Warning: spoilers for the end of the game and the specific identity of the Emperor! So, depending on if you follow Wyll’s character quest through to the end, you might learn something about the identity of the Emperor. Act 3. 1- the soul is destroyed when he became a ilithid, or his soul became an ilithid soul, whatever the case he can’t bring Balduran back, just (maybe) The Emperor. Balduran might have been a decent dude. It's not much of a "theory" because that's exactly what the brain outright tells you at the pool. The Emperor was once the great adventurer and founder of Baldur's Gate, Balduran. Take a look between the two characters in your first screenshot and see who is lying in bed between them. The odds. "O, sing a song of Balduran. During the Astral Plane battle, you will want to side with the Emperor if you want the romance option. The choice was obvious. Balduran's Favour: You have a + 1 bonus to AC and Saving Throws. While the game does touch on the Emperor quite a bit, you'll notice a lot of it's just repetitive fluff without much depth or new info. idk, unnecessary? forced? out of nowhere? I mean the one guy who helps us and happens to be an illithid is also the guy who founded the damn city ? Isn't it a bit much? On a side note, when he joins the Netherbrain in the end if you refuse to give him the stones. The butter knife line is actually a very clever piece of foreshadowing for the revelation that The Emperor is actually Balduran, the founder of the titular city of Baldur's Gate who has been. Discover a vast variety of The Emperor Is Balduran The Creator Of Baldur S Gate Baldur S Gate 3 Secrets advertisements on our premium marketplace. . idk, unnecessary? forced? out of nowhere? I mean the one guy who helps us and happens to be an illithid is also the guy who founded the damn city ?. He has been protecting the party from The Absolute's influence, and does prove to be a strong ally (and even. fandom. Could not avert his fate. Head through the main door and face Ansur. Emperor retains SOME humanity in the form of memories but chose to be detached. The human is just a generic npc. The Emperor isn't a full on evil character, but he isn't a nice dude either. So in act 3, it’s revealed that the Emperor/Guardian was Balduran before they turned. it is believed that his mother gave the. Afterward, the Emperor can be spoken to, where they will show flashbacks to. 2023 with better and more accurate information. So after act two you go into the astral prism to help the emperor against the gith guard. Emperor was not an anomaly, it was part of the (grand)design. Let's assume that Ansur has found a powerful magician who is capable of bringing back the human Balduran, and is ready to cast the necessary spell. By default, the party is allied with the Emperor, an independent mind flayer and the true identity of Baldur's Gate 3's Guardian, who reveals that the party is being protected from the influence of the Absolute. This will turn the torches blue and open up a secret. By this. Saving the world is like, a side thing in his attempt to prevent the brain to enslave him again. idk, unnecessary? forced? out of nowhere? I mean the one guy who helps us and happens to be an illithid is also the guy who founded the damn city ?. New comments cannot be. 17. He was Balduran, a great adventurer and founder of Baldur's Gate. This unique situation happened in a very rare case. After escaping the control of the Elder Brain for the first time, the mind flayer. . Orpheus is able to extend his protection to your party, including someone who has turned into an illithid (required for plot reasons if you free Orpheus). . She played the Emperor and the Dead Three chosen. idk, unnecessary? forced? out of nowhere? I mean the one guy who helps us and happens to be an illithid is also the guy who founded the damn city ?. . . He was Balduran, a great adventurer and founder of Baldur's Gate. #14. Mediocre Mar 25, 2021 @ 7:36am. Find the Wyrmway in Wyrm's Rock Prison. Aha!The fact that he is Balduran seems so. The emperor even tells it as Ansur came to him in his sleep, which again given that you find Ansur dead in his own lair really casts some doubt as to the chain of events. See a recent post on Tumblr from @sesian about the emperor. Baldur's Gate 3 is available on Steam : on Spotify: and Publ. You'll never be bored again. Moonrise towers and the surrounding City were built 150~ years ago by Ketheric BEFORE he lost it. aug. dude has zero integrity, lmao. It's just that everyone in Faerun considers a mind flayer to be an "it" , rather than an actual individual. 1- the soul is destroyed when he became a ilithid, or his soul became an ilithid soul, whatever the case he can’t bring Balduran back, just (maybe) The Emperor. It is cataclysmic. Balduran disappeared in the mid 1000s DR and became a mind flayer. Empire golden built on trade. Withers explicitly says they have no souls left, no true remnant of the person they were, only memories and traces of emotion. See a recent post on Tumblr from @mintcrows about illithid. He still can't. Balduran was. After Ansur's death, Balduran came to be called the Emperor as he used his. So either the Emperor is a straight male or a gay girl (or bisexual or whatever the fuck, doesn't matter. Balduran was an adventurer and seafarer in Faerun who amassed wealth and founded the city of Baldur's. Our guide discusses whether or not you should help the Emperor. He originates from Balduran and has all of his memories, so his identity / personhood is a mixture of Balduran and mind flayer-ness. Stun Immunity. The Emperor having a set of cutlery that he thinks very. So, in case you didn’t know there is a quest you can receive if you manage to save Duke Ravenguard. Minthara is the best character and she NEEDS to be recruitable if you side with the grove! Re: Romance with the Emperor, the Mind Flayer. But by his own comments, he was already on his way back since he was ceremorphed in the Moonrise Towers: in the heartlands already. Well, the Guardian is a transformed Mind Flayer named Balduran. There is no romance dialogue at the end, nor does my TAV has the option to do anything with them. I mostly enjoyed the. She's been playing like 13th dimension chess and planned for the Emperor to rebel and recruit tadpoled-empowered adventurers to help him get one of the Netherstones from the Dead Three Chosen. There are 4 things the Emperor treasures the most: Survival, Independence, Acceptance and Ambition. Balduran's Favour: You have a + 1 bonus to AC and Saving Throws. The Emperor’s Secret Identity. . Like, boy it sure is convenient that this Mind Flayer was the single most revered adventurer in all the land so. Provided to YouTube by DistroKid Song of Balduran (From "Baldur's Gate III") · PelleK Song of Balduran (From "Baldur's Gate III") ℗ PelleK Released on: 2. He mapped a number of islands on his route. Balduran's Giantslayer is one of the Greatsword Weapons in Baldur's Gate 3 . Balduran going to Moonrise was quite recent, based on my research it was around ~30 years. As The Legend of Ansur says, The Dragon’s Sanctum is history begging to be unearthed. If betrayed the Emperor immediately shows their true colors, and joins the villains. But instead of leaving, Ansur decided he was going to kill the Emperor in his sleep. The butter knife line is actually a very clever piece of foreshadowing for the revelation that The Emperor is actually Balduran, the founder of the titular city of Baldur's Gate who has been. Empi wants to destroy the netherbrain. Omelum was not evil. First, go to Wyrm’s Rock Fortress and head down to the prison. Ansur himself makes it very clear that he was the instigator and that the Emperor acted out of self-preservation. Ansur and Balduran . The fact that he is Balduran seems so. Now hope is gone, or so it seems. It is here that the Emperor’s final secret is revealed as Ansur shows the party that the Emperor used to be Balduran. Any promise he makes. Any promise he makes. I mostly enjoyed the. Emperor's friend Bronze Dragon Ansur reveals Emperor dark secret Baldur's Gate 3 All Cutscenes. The quest that Bioware and Black Isle created was ambiguous as to the fate of the mythical adventurer. I killed him shortly after anyways in the name of BhaalThe fact that he is Balduran seems so. But the Emperor, unlike all other Mind Flayers, has retained the identity of the host completely, and identifies himself as Balduran. . The characters can grow and you can see them grow, The Emperor probably is the most hated one and i don't understand, he is the sole reason you and your companions are alive, he was Balduran, people likes to bring Ansur all the time, "the emperor is bad he killed his best friend and possible lover" well maybe if Ansur didn't wanted to kill him. Joined: Oct 2023. Mediocre Mar 25, 2021 @ 7:36am. Enter Balduran, and an extra bit of lore than people/soldiers/etc from Baldur are always 'Baldurian', and never 'Balduran' because poking fun at the dude's name is not allowed. Above all else, he will do anything to survive. We are led to believe, in the end, that we might also get so lucky if we transform. The Emperor talks about how he wanted freedom but settled to be a slave when Tav has made up their mind. . Any Baldur's Gate 3 player is going to be slightly suspicious of the Emperor, well before his tentacles appear. Any Baldur's Gate 3 player is going to be slightly suspicious of the Emperor, well before his tentacles appear. Obviously the emperor is dead too but IMO he was kind of an asshole for choosing power over his best friend (Ansur). , 11:47 every. Found a minor ending variation. The fact that he is Balduran seems so. Bosses in BG3 are powerful enemies that have increased health and pose a bigger challenge for players. Balduran, or The Emperor now, grew to accept his. The two form a connection but as their love grows, the return of Halsin adds a new twist of a second chance at love. Enter Balduran: a human (or retconned elven) adventurer who founded Baldur's Gate hundreds of years ago. 18. Both are planes conquering maniacs except Orpheus posesses real innate power against mindflayers. He’s always made the choice that lets him survive on the long run. Apparently they were in love with Duke Stelmane long ago and that person was a girl. Yeah its that SOMA question of "is an exact copy of a person still the same person", but either way he has an identical personality of Balduran only now with the powers and alien senses of a mindflayer he's able to indulge on his worst and most. As it is made clear that the Emperor is exceptional by Mind Flayer standards in how much they remember of their life, I wouldn't regard it as a retcon, just an expansion of some previously established lore. If you choose it, he literally roasts you 😐 I had to reload a save just to save my character from the embarrassment. He obviously identifies with Balduran in some way. Apparently they were in love with Duke Stelmane long ago and that person was a girl. . The Emperor roasted me. - He is an Illithid, which means that his. He even says it during the fight against Ansur. The fact that he is Balduran seems so. Empire golden built on trade. I mostly enjoyed the. Most mind flayers would eat brains and execute "lesser beings" on spot. But the Emperor, unlike all other Mind Flayers, has retained the identity of the host completely, and identifies himself as Balduran. Looking for an adventure? Than this is the right place! This time, we get told the whole story of Balduran, his hero days, his downfall and how that broke An. There is a signigicant difference in that. We have the Emperor on record in that Gortash interview saying Balduran's exceptionally strong personality enabled him to preserve himself for years on end, and even afforded him some mental autonomy whilst enthralled by the Brain back at Moonrise. There's a mural in the Wyrmway you can interact with and it says "an elf and a dragon. This dungeon under the city is full of lore about the founder of Baldur’s Gate, a hero known as Balduran. It is cataclysmic. you get a bit of interesting lore about the Emperor. Ansur, Balduran's dragon companion recognise him when you meet him. The Emperor is not a humanoid. When the Person that is infested with the Tadpole of a Mind Flayer, the Tadpole literally consumes the person, right down to their Soul, in order to. He wants to be free of the Elder Brain's control. Baldurian. The fact that he is Balduran seems so. In the final fight I didn't kill the emperor before jumping into the portal. Website: more guides and information about each game be sure to check out my webs. You can do what the Emperor failed to do, and what the original Balduran might have done. Let's assume that Ansur has found a powerful magician who is capable of bringing back the human Balduran, and is ready to cast the necessary spell. Remember, you freed Orpheus and the only reason any of you are able to resist is. Let's consider the Emperor before his transformation. Balduran's Giantslayer is a legendary greatsword that receives doubled damage bonus from Strength, grants its wielder the Giant Form class action and the Topple the Big Folk weapon action, as well as Advantage on Attack rolls against Large, Huge, and Gargantuan creatures. I thought that the emperor was making up some BS background story about being an adventurer, but no it turns out he's the founder of Baldur's Gate itself. Where to find Emperor. Joined: Oct 2020. Act 3 - Spoilers. e. He is the "HERO" Balduran and also killed the Green Dragon just to save his own mindflayer ass again. ago. The Emperor make it looks like Orpheus is a rampage murderer who is gonna obliterate anyone that isn't a gith. The butter knife line is actually a very clever piece of foreshadowing for the revelation that The Emperor is actually Balduran, the founder of the titular city of Baldur's Gate who has been. Re: Daisy, the Absolute, and the Emperor [SPOILERS] Milkfred # 918972 30/10/23 01:44 AM. The Emperor's Sword +2. Locked post. The truth is, Orpheus will immediately attempt to kill only him . fwiw, you can also pick up the Werebane dagger and (bastard) Sword of Balduran on the isle. The Emperor is exceptional in this regard, he has a unique personality shaped by his origins. He apparently later is captured by the absolute in 1492, even though he is basically a. Finding out he is a Mind Flayer is detrimental to his plans because it causes you to lose trust (and if you found out earlier, most likely. Super manipulative. Hi guys, there is a point a didn't actually grasp from the Emperor's (i. dude has zero integrity, lmao. Balduran reinserts himself into Baldur's Gate politics, mind controlling Duke Belynne Stelmane and through her taking over the Balduran branch of the Knights of the Shield, a devil-worshipping group of merchants, nobles and information dealers. . Emperor, a catfishing lying manipulator who only cares about himself. He knows if he leaves, you're forced to turn someone into a mind flayer on your team to beat the netherbrain (for equally contrived reasons but I *could* ignore it). The human is just a generic npc. The Wyrmway was built to honor the oathbound duty of Ansur, where he had resided for a long while, until Ansur helped the Emperor break free from the Elder Brain. By this point in the game, players would have heard of Balduran several times. The Emperor himself: he is Balduran, yet Balduran was adventuring in the year(s) 1000s-1100, he was also prominently featured as dead and gone in Tales of the Sword Coast where he was allegedly infected with lycanthropy, he was also human, so he is long dead. Ansur hints at a deeper. He goes by the name Emperor after his transformation, and unlike other Mind Flayers in BG3, he has free will and memories intact post-ceremorpohosis. It's just that everyone in Faerun considers a mind flayer to be an "it" , rather than an actual individual. This is. He ends up getting tadpoled himself, but comes to enjoy his now Illithid form, though he hates being enslaved by an Elder Brain. As for the Wizard, I’d want to say Balduran/Emperor since their flashback showed the casting of Feather Fall (Spell Wizards can use) and they are more directly involved with the Astral. The past matters, him trying to force you to become a mind flayer matters, him murdering "allies" matter as you're supposed to be one of his allies. See full list on forgottenrealms. . Take a look between the two characters in your first screenshot and see who is lying in bed between them. Now that you’ve been able to find and pass the trials, we can teach you how to beat Ansur the Dragon in Baldur’s Gate 3. Sign in . Location: Ukraine. The Emperor is just a typical illithid. Ansur was friends with Balduran, the founder of Baldur’s Gate, and swore to. . Joined: Jan 2023. Stun Immunity. How to obtain Balduran's Giantslayer Legendary BG3. So if you free Orpheus it makes sense for. Balduran, or The Emperor now, grew to accept his. For Catarina, this story comes to light with a shadow of deepest dread. This opens a secret passage. Mind flayers seem to have remnants of the personality of their victim, so perhaps more mind flayers would attempt to exist peacefully if it weren't for the elder brains turning them all. So, there is a spoiler about the real identity of the Emperor. The emperor knows you need a mind flayer to use the netherstones to subjugate the netherbrain. This is the legendary hero Balduran, the founder of Baldur's Gate. He has been protecting the party from The Absolute's influence, and does prove to be a strong ally (and even. Ansur: Have you come to dance on my bones, Balduran? Was slaying me not satisfaction enough? However, the truly startling revelation comes in Act 3 when you are tasked by Duke Ravenguard to find and secure the help of the mighty Bronze Dragon named Ansur - companion of Balduran, the founder of the city. #2. New cards are drawn, new hands are played. The Emperor's choice was between killing Ansur or being killed by Ansur, not between being an Illithid or not. What happens if you let The Emperor Dream Visitor Die Baldur's Gate 3 video. He obviously identifies with Balduran in some way. S. Astrail Plane; On top of Nether Brain . another trick from the Emperor. #2. dude has zero integrity, lmao. The emperor is a selfish manipulative twat but he’s also a very nuanced and well designed character. Also know that the. (Maybe this is why he has not informed us of his involvement with Gortash. idk, unnecessary? forced? out of nowhere? I mean the one guy who helps us and happens to be an illithid is also the guy who founded the damn city ? Isn't it a bit much? On a side note, when he joins the Netherbrain in the end if you refuse to give him the stones. #2. The butter knife line is actually a very clever piece of foreshadowing for the revelation that The Emperor is actually Balduran, the founder of the titular city of Baldur's Gate who has been. Characters need to master certain Proficiency before. 47 every. He knows if he leaves, you're forced to turn someone into a mind flayer on your team to beat the netherbrain (for equally contrived reasons but I *could* ignore it). Far from being created for the games that bear its name, the city of Baldur's Gate has been a part of the Forgotten Realms campaign setting since it was first published. 19 aug @ 11:47 every companion. First, go to Wyrm’s Rock Fortress and head down to the prison. . Reply reply w1gw4m • Nah, he was definitely Balduran, i can see why that plot twist matters (and it is spoiled by the starting. Discover more posts about bg3 the emperor, bg3 emperor, mind flayer, the emperor bg3, the emperor, balduran, and illithid. the founder of Baldur's Gate and, like you, he didn't choose to become illithid. Freedom. That said, the Emperor shares nothing of Balduran's original traits. . Orpheus sacrifices himself like a true hero would to get rid of mindflayers including himself if you choose so. He kept the memories of Balduran, yet still becomes a whiny bitch who constantly moans about how illithids are superior, and is only in it to save his own skin despite claiming to care about Baldur's Gate. If you can pass his trials, however, he'll grant. The whims of fortune's few. The Emperor is openly selfish, a manipulator, and evil (if you learn about his interactions with the Bronze Dragon Ansur) 2. Killing Orpheus is an obvious and right decision - the emperor never betrayed your trust, Orpheus on the other hand is a threat to the whole plan and you can’t be sure about his reaction. We see this through his trials in Wyrm's Rock and also by the fact his best friend was a good-aligned metallic dragon. This is the legendary hero Balduran, the founder of Baldur's Gate. The Emperor is being manipulative again when he claims that Orpheus will immediately attempt to kill all of us. But that doesn't explain why we don't get the choice to help undead Ansur beat The Emperor. He killed one in self-defense and mind controlled another all to continue his existence. 19. It had a full armory and catapults to battle hostile ships, and a massive chain which could. Ketheric's imprisonment of Aylin happened around 1391 DR, when he first raised an army of Dark Justiciars in Shar's name (that's why she is imprisoned in Shar's domain, the Shadowfell). First off, The Emperor aka Balduran is perhaps the most idiotic character ever. The Emperor, formerly known as Balduran, was once a human who constructed Baldur's Gate. The Emperor is one of them as he retains the memories of Balduran and is heavily connected with him. I mostly enjoyed the. When players walk into the Chamber of Strategy, and interact with the Statue of Balduran there, the challenge is presented: within two moves, checkmate the Purple King. But the Emperor is not Balduran. Ansur wanted to find a way to reverse this process and bring balduran back. Here's the most interesting thing, with the Emperor's case. In this role, he becomes known as the Emperor. Even so the guy is so heroic that he is willing to become himself a mindflyer and passing the leadership of the cause against Vlaakith to Lae'zel. idk, unnecessary? forced? out of nowhere? I mean the one guy who helps us and happens to be an illithid is also the guy who founded the damn city ? Isn't it a bit much? On a side note, when he joins the Netherbrain in the end if you refuse to give him the stones. Ansur tried to mercy kill him in his sleep. The Emperor is not Balduran. The good points : - He is an ex adventurer/hero bearing the name Balduran, that much has been proven not only by his remaining belongings but also by the wyrm in Baldur's Gate. Ansur hints at a deeper connection with Balduran, alluding to their relationship before Balduran's transformation and slaying of Ansur. Balduran's Favour: You have a + 1 bonus to AC and Saving Throws. . I mostly enjoyed the. . Balduran was a pirate who were strong enough to attract a dragon as friend. During. Yeah that was pretty shocking. every. The Emperor wants you to be as powerful as possible no matter what, because he knows how tough the end fight is. I guess you didn't care that the emperor is actually Balduran. Emperor joins BEFORE you free orpheus and ♥♥♥♥♥ off and says "well I'm joining the netherbrain then if you want to free orpheus" this is BEFORE you free him. But the Emperor is not Balduran. However, on Ansur's body is a. idk, unnecessary? forced? out of nowhere? I mean the one guy who helps us and happens to be an illithid is also the guy who founded the damn city ? Isn't it a bit much? On a side note, when he joins the Netherbrain in the end if you refuse to give him the stones. I mostly enjoyed the. #2. The Emperor is featured (but unnamed) as the evil entity that entralled Selmane in the adventure Murder in Baldur's Gate. My mind is blown after I fought Ansur. I hadn’t gotten that far and based on what I know of the guy, I didn’t think that was possible and it still doesn’t make any sense based on previous lore. Joined: Oct 2020. Balduran's Giantslayer is an excellent weapon with the power to confront almost any larger creature. Warning: spoilers for the end of the game and the specific identity of the Emperor! So, depending on if you follow Wyll’s character quest through to the end, you might learn something about the identity of the Emperor. I mostly enjoyed the. Rude. It felt like a lot of time was spent on Karlach but not so much the others. Memories of Balduran only amount to learning one spell when you become a mind flayer i guess 😂. — Yasmin Mwanza. I am one of the weird ones who decided to romance Balduran/The Emperor and I’m not sure. " even if you pick a Background like Outlander which contradicts it by Stating "You grew up in the wilds. The Emperor plays a key role in the main story of Baldur's Gate 3, and as part of this role his identity and personal background are kept obfuscated for much of the game. . And as much as it wants to convince itself and you that it's Balduran, even if it truly believes it. I gather Orpheus just stopped giving The Emperor his protection and he fell back under control of the brain. Bhaal Cultist Bloodmopper…. The Emperor is no longer Balduran. What im interested in is staying partial-illithid, without becoming full mindflayer. Probably because it has no real weight or consequence, just an offhand thing at the end of Wyll’s companion questline. (potentially big spoilers) I really just feel like it’s a whole cop out. the Emperor initially presents this power as a benevolent gift, while Raphael withholds it behind cooperating with him. The fact that he is Balduran seems so.